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OSRM summary for Len Newman | 281 comments (262 topical, 19 editorial, 5 hidden)
Re: A simple request (1.92 / 13) (#142)
by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 16th, 2004 at 21:37:24 EST
I thought this was a bash PJ site.

Most of the articles published seem to be focused on bashing her. I don't see too many articles praising her for all the time, effort and energy she's put in to Groklaw.
I don't see too many articles thanking all the folk who help out at helping Groklaw become such a phenominal success.
I don't see too many articles pointing out how useful Groklaw has been for explaining the legal documents being filed by SCO and IBM and the rest.

This entire site comes across as a very impressive astroturf campaign. One part nicely timed web-site, One part bruised ego's, Shake, stir and wait.

This "ip-wars" domain was created on the 28-Oct-2004.
Owned by "Zenshin Consulting, Inc."
Which has this domain: zenshin-consulting.com
Which was created on the 11-Jun-2004.

And this doesn't strike any of you people as suspicious????? Further followed by SCO deciding that they really don't need prosco or scoinfo or whatever.
I mean Darl has shot his mouth off before with threats that haven't been followed thru, but this all just doesn't smell right.

It may be a giant co-incidence, in which case Jeff you have my advance apology; But it all comes across way too nicely timed, too pat, for me to feel even remotely comfortable with the apparent goals of the site.

Here we see actions speaking at the same volume as the words and they do look like a serious effort at astroturfing to undermine PJ as a respected authority. "PJ is evil because she moderates" goes the cry of the masses. So lets all ignore the rest of what she has done, and continues to do - FOR FREE - in both senses of the word - and focus purely on this one distraction.

Looks a LOT like a quite sophisticated astroturf in that light doesn't it.


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  • Re: A simple request by JCausey, 11/17/2004 00:01:27 EST (4.63 / 11)
    • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 00:18:17 EST (3.25 / 4)
      • Re: Attn: Troll Manipulation in Progress by warmcat, 11/17/2004 03:47:15 EST (4.40 / 10)
        • Re: Attn: Troll Manipulation in Progress by mikey, 11/17/2004 10:01:53 EST (4.33 / 3)
        • Re: Attn: Troll Manipulation in Progress by pgk, 11/17/2004 04:33:09 EST (4.10 / 10)
  • Re: A simple request by mck9, 11/17/2004 00:46:30 EST (4.54 / 11)
    • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 03:21:22 EST (1.54 / 11)
      • Re: A simple request by mck9, 11/17/2004 08:40:14 EST (3.88 / 9)
        • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 12:05:02 EST (2.00 / 9)
          • Re: A simple request by mikey, 11/17/2004 12:13:27 EST (4.83 / 6)
          • Re: A simple request by mck9, 11/17/2004 13:26:59 EST (3.60 / 5)
          • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 12:09:24 EST (3.25 / 4)
      • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 09:49:47 EST (3.85 / 7)
        • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 09:58:59 EST (3.00 / 7)
          • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 10:07:50 EST (3.40 / 5)
          • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 10:03:32 EST (2.42 / 7)
            • Re: A simple request by br3n, 11/17/2004 10:59:01 EST (3.33 / 3)
        • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 11:55:09 EST (1.62 / 8)
          • Re: A simple request by JCausey, 11/17/2004 12:05:20 EST (3.85 / 7)
            • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 12:20:25 EST (1.10 / 10)
              • Re: A simple request by JCausey, 11/17/2004 12:32:57 EST (3.75 / 8)
          • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 12:20:50 EST (3.71 / 7)
          • Re: A simple request by br3n, 11/17/2004 12:45:28 EST (2.75 / 4)
      • Re: A simple request by pgk, 11/17/2004 03:48:27 EST (3.66 / 9)
        • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 12:15:32 EST (1.00 / 7)
          • Re: A simple request by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 12:38:26 EST (4.28 / 7)
            • Re: A simple request by jbellis, 11/17/2004 13:24:44 EST (3.60 / 5)
              • Re: A simple request by mikey, 11/17/2004 13:53:01 EST (4.28 / 7)
                • Re: A simple request by jbellis, 11/17/2004 14:07:17 EST (3.40 / 5)
                  • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 15:46:10 EST (2.00 / 6)
                    • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 16:02:34 EST (none / 2)
              • Re: A simple request by ColonelZen, 11/17/2004 13:59:33 EST (3.85 / 7)
                • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 17:39:06 EST (2.33 / 9)
                  • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 20:20:36 EST (3.00 / 3)
          • Re: A simple request by mikey, 11/17/2004 12:35:59 EST (3.83 / 6)
            • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 12:43:04 EST (3.25 / 4)
              • Re: A simple request by mikey, 11/17/2004 12:49:14 EST (3.50 / 4)
            • Re: A simple request by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 15:49:10 EST (2.50 / 6)
              • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 16:08:01 EST (3.60 / 5)
                • Re: A simple request by mikey, 11/17/2004 17:11:43 EST (none / 2)
              • Re: A simple request by pgk, 11/17/2004 16:43:35 EST (3.50 / 6)
              • Re: A simple request by deepdistrust, 11/17/2004 16:09:17 EST (3.40 / 5)
  • A bashing site? by rweait, 11/16/2004 22:15:26 EST (4.18 / 11)
  • Re: A simple request by nono2sco, 11/16/2004 21:50:32 EST (3.72 / 11)
  • Re: A simple request by crunchie812, 11/16/2004 23:10:56 EST (3.66 / 9)

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