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PJ Reaches a New Pinnacle of Hypocrisy | 528 comments (520 topical, 8 editorial, 6 hidden)
Where do we go from here? (4.31 / 16) (#412)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Thu Nov 25th, 2004 at 12:39:53 EST
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It appears that little has been accomplished by posting this article.  We continue to rehash the same issues, over and over.  I have yet to read a response from Potential Recruit that helps to address any concerns expressed on this site, they are mostly devoid of substance.  These exchanges are going nowhere.  The single exception is AllParadox, who has thoughtfully and respectfully offered his perspective into the mix.

The Potential Recruits can't see an article in the submission queue that discusses (in the editorial comments) among other things taking legal action in order to precipitate change.  In my opinion this would do nothing but harm to all involved, and I do not share this goal.  Nor do most of the respondents who are participating in the discussion.

It has become obvious to me that the only meaningful dialog has to include PJ.  She is the only single individual who start the process to bring about closure to the situation.  None of  us, the Potential Recruits, nor AllParadox can do anything but speculate.  

It has been suggested to collaborate on something like an open letter to PJ, outlining the concerns of people who have them.  This would need to be done very tactfully, and in my opinion it should start everyone involved in a different direction.

Would this be a worthwhile endeavor?  What exactly are the goals, or "demands", of everyone here?  What would you like to see resolved, and how?  What exactly would like PJ to do to make you happy?  What would you Potential Recruits like to see us do?  Is there any point to attempting  reconciliation, or is everyone beyond that point?  Are we interested in ratcheting down the hubris, or not?


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DISCLAIMER:
IANAL, may have no idea what the heck I am talking about, yadda yadda yadda.

  • Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by Potentiality, 11/26/2004 11:57:12 EST (4.33 / 12)
    • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by mikey, 11/26/2004 15:23:14 EST (3.85 / 7)
      • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by Potential Recruit, 11/26/2004 19:45:58 EST (2.92 / 14)
        • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by mikey, 11/26/2004 23:03:25 EST (3.42 / 7)
        • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by nono2sco, 11/27/2004 00:45:47 EST (3.33 / 12)
        • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by JCausey, 11/26/2004 21:20:45 EST (3.27 / 11)
    • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by Potential Recruit, 11/26/2004 12:36:56 EST (1.61 / 13)
      • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by br3n, 11/26/2004 13:05:38 EST (3.50 / 8)
        • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by Potential Recruit, 11/26/2004 13:24:12 EST (1.30 / 10)
          • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by br3n, 11/26/2004 13:33:53 EST (3.12 / 8)
          • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by mugs, 11/27/2004 19:36:42 EST (2.37 / 8)
      • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by wallybass, 11/27/2004 23:56:25 EST (3.50 / 8)
      • Re: Meaningful Dialog Including PJ by nono2sco, 11/26/2004 12:50:05 EST (3.37 / 8)
  • Re: Where do we go from here? by tomas, 11/26/2004 02:04:11 EST (4.11 / 9)
    • Re: Where do we go from here? by mikey, 11/26/2004 02:59:16 EST (4.10 / 10)
      • Are you nuts? by wallybass, 11/27/2004 22:54:15 EST (3.69 / 13)
        • Re: Are you nuts? by mikey, 11/28/2004 00:41:25 EST (3.33 / 9)
          • Re: Are you nuts? by wallybass, 11/28/2004 01:18:57 EST (2.88 / 9)
            • Re: Are you nuts? by nono2sco, 11/28/2004 01:30:38 EST (3.77 / 9)
            • Re: Are you nuts? by daveventura, 11/28/2004 02:17:14 EST (3.50 / 8)
              • Re: Are you nuts? by wallybass, 11/28/2004 03:47:03 EST (3.09 / 11)
            • Re: Are you nuts? by mikey, 11/28/2004 01:58:37 EST (3.37 / 8)
              • Re: Are you nuts? by wallybass, 11/28/2004 03:22:57 EST (3.36 / 11)
                • Re: Are you nuts? by mikey, 11/28/2004 11:03:43 EST (3.85 / 7)
                  • Re: Are you nuts? by wallybass, 12/01/2004 17:54:14 EST (4.11 / 9)
                    • Re: Are you nuts? by mikey, 12/02/2004 02:48:18 EST (4.00 / 6)
                      • Well argued on both sides by tomas, 12/05/2004 02:15:05 EST (3.75 / 4)
                        • Re: Well argued on both sides by mikey, 12/05/2004 04:32:25 EST (3.40 / 5)
                          • Re: Well argued on both sides by tomas, 12/05/2004 08:20:55 EST (3.80 / 5)
                            • Re: Well argued on both sides by mikey, 12/05/2004 15:31:10 EST (3.20 / 5)
                              • Re: Well argued on both sides by tomas, 12/05/2004 18:00:00 EST (3.33 / 3)
                                • Re: Well argued on both sides by mikey, 01/10/2005 00:51:51 EST (4.00 / 4)
                                  • Re: Well argued on both sides by tomas, 01/10/2005 01:01:08 EST (3.75 / 4)
      • Re: Where do we go from here? by tomas, 11/26/2004 03:22:36 EST (3.37 / 8)
        • Re: Where do we go from here? by br3n, 11/26/2004 09:11:41 EST (3.00 / 11)
  • Re: Where do we go from here? by g hostwriter aka geeage aka, 12/05/2004 19:10:38 EST (3.75 / 4)
  • I think this will be a bit difficult... by Mac Addict, 11/27/2004 11:31:33 EST (3.45 / 11)
    • You aren't looking very hard by wallybass, 11/27/2004 23:34:36 EST (3.36 / 11)
    • Re: I think this will be a bit difficult... by br3n, 11/27/2004 12:26:20 EST (3.10 / 10)
      • Re: I think this will be a bit difficult... by Mac Addict, 11/27/2004 13:18:17 EST (3.60 / 10)
    • Re: I think this will be a bit difficult... by Potential Recruit, 11/30/2004 00:55:04 EST (1.22 / 9)
      • Re: I think this will be a bit difficult... by nono2sco, 11/30/2004 02:10:18 EST (3.16 / 6)
  • Re: Where do we go from here? by Mac Addict, 11/25/2004 12:55:26 EST (3.12 / 8)

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