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By JCausey, Section General Articles
Posted on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 09:00:22 EST

This is the place to put comments about eye candy, questions/suggestions/criticisms about policies, features, etc.

Original timestamp = Thu Nov 4th, 2004 at 09:11:35 EST

Changed on Nov. 9, 2004 at 16:38 EST in an attempt to bring it back to the top of the front page (where people can find it). Timestamp edited on Nov. 17, 2004 at 08:59 EST to bring it back to the top!

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Drupal (5.00 / 2) (#35)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Fri Nov 5th, 2004 at 01:12:06 EST
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I am going to step out on a limb here and suggest something before we get too far off into figuring out scoop.

Has anyone checked out drupal (drupal.org).  It has everything we would need, is much more mature, and has a very robust comment rating system.

It also has a book module, that would allow people to be authorized to contribute to books, something like a wiki I guess.  It can also track changes to articles, comments, the book, etc...

Just a suggestion :)


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DISCLAIMER:
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  • Re: Drupal by rweait, 11/17/2004 22:19:02 EST (3.75 / 4)
    • Re: Drupal by mikey, 11/18/2004 01:56:06 EST (3.66 / 3)
Links to other sites (5.00 / 2) (#41)
by pgk (PG_King zzzzzzz (yahoo.com)) on Fri Nov 5th, 2004 at 13:29:11 EST
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I know you have the RDF feeds for Groklaw and Slashdot, is there a section for general links to "intersting" sites like Al's scofacts.org and Andy's yah.warmcat.com?


  • Re: Links to other sites by JCausey, 11/05/2004 15:35:41 EST (5.00 / 1)
Problems (5.00 / 2) (#47)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Fri Nov 5th, 2004 at 15:02:46 EST
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Click on the Menu option "View All Submissions".  Note the index link at the bottom that says Next 8 >>.  Click on it, there is only one more article.

Is that normal?


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  • Re: Problems by nono2sco, 11/07/2004 11:18:09 EST (none / 0)
Site Update (Tuesday night EST) (4.66 / 6) (#127)
by JCausey (jcausey@ip-wars.net) on Tue Nov 9th, 2004 at 23:36:03 EST
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Hey everyone!!!

As you have surely noticed by now, I have made several small changes throughout the site.

First of all, you'll see that I have dropped the "dispatches" terminology in favor of articles.

Second, I've setup several new sections and I'm working on some different topics as well.  You'll see those when you write an article.

Third, I finished a pretty big update of the FAQ, so you'll probably want to go through that (again).

Fourth, I have made some changes in some of the parameters.  For instance, at least three votes are now needed before a score for a comment is calculated.  I've done a similar thing with the submissions in an effort to get more feedback on each article before it moves out of the queue.

As you know, I've setup a poll re: the license for the site.  Be sure to read the comments before voting!

There was a question somewhere about the deeplinking policy.  My intent is to allow deeplinking.  I'll be working on the SOP's to clarify that.

There was a question about putting a limit on the intro text (to avoid excessively long articles appear on the front page).  This can be done and I will probably institute it.  I've got to modify the article submission form though so authors will be aware of the limit and what may happen if they exceed the limit.

Thanks to everyone for participating!!!!

Jeff

Dazed and Confused about Logbooks (4.50 / 2) (#104)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Mon Nov 8th, 2004 at 10:39:31 EST
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Just noticed a post by mitmosnar in the submission queue, under the section/topic logbooks.

I understook logbook entries to basicly be personal blog (diary-like) entries that did not go through any sort of review and approval process.  So why was the entry for mitmosnar in the review reports queue in the first place?

I felt the particular post was more personal in nature than what is appropriate for front page "article" material.  The post was, however, in my opinion appropriate for a personal logbook entry.  I voted zero (abstain) on the article, because I didn't want to inadvertently affect his overall rating status.

I also wondered how the heck he got a logbook entry to go through since every time I try I get an error message.  I then noticed that under the "Submit Dispatch" link you can, in fact, select logbook as the section/topic.

So what gives?

  • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by pgk, 11/08/2004 10:43:50 EST (4.00 / 3)
  • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by mitmosnar, 11/08/2004 14:47:19 EST (4.00 / 2)
    • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by nono2sco, 11/08/2004 15:12:25 EST (none / 0)
      • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by mikey, 11/08/2004 16:10:02 EST (3.00 / 1)
      • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by mitmosnar, 11/08/2004 17:04:48 EST (none / 1)
  • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by heimdal31, 11/08/2004 11:38:44 EST (3.66 / 3)
    • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by br3n, 11/08/2004 11:43:27 EST (3.50 / 2)
    • Re: Dazed and Confused about Logbooks by crunchie812, 11/09/2004 09:51:46 EST (none / 2)
Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure (4.42 / 14) (#190)
by warmcat on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 08:42:41 EST
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First up you're doing yourself a disservice posting as Anonymous.  Your post actually has points in it, but when you post as Anonymous it is appearing under the same "name" as trolling junk.  Please get an account so you are an 'individual'.

I'm not going to line-by-line your post because I don't have time, but here are some things that struck me from it.

> Groklaw is a SPoF because there is only one PJ.

The point is only Grok can serve what Grok serves, and that is by deliberate fiat from PJ.  That is why it is a "single point" unlike other sites which have their place in history in Google or the Wayback Machine, even if they are snuffed out.  Compared to getting the stuff archived and searchable, the fact that her deletions might no longer stick (and this is the problem, archival undermines her ability to silence people) does not seem to me relevant.

> And this is why I happily accept her
> decisions. I feel the cure plus side effects
> is better than than the disease.

I did not ever suggest PJ should be replaced at Grok: it's her show.  What I have said is that PJ needs to be routed around.  The reliance on one site and one person is unhealthy, particularly with the strange worshipping stuff that goes on, and the consequent ability for one person to suppress whatever they like from general view.  IP-Wars is increasingly looking like a really healthy additional site.

> The side effects of this policy are heavy.  
> Again, I happily agree with her decision,
> because I agree with the positives; even if I
> mourn the negatives.

Well there are people that disagree with PJ's judgement, and that will therefore not react with the same sanguinity.  PJ's fiat extends only to Groklaw.  If you are "happy" having everything she disagrees with nuked before you see it and make up your own mind, and with no way to check what she is nuking, you will be happier at Grok, that's all that can be said, except to observe that you gave up your freedom to make your own mind up very cheaply and "happily".

Maybe you could have a muse about the possible 'good' reasons for banning Deep Linking, I didn't see it mentioned.  I have come up blank trying to think of any.

> make use of such comments as a primer or "proof" in an article.

Paid-fors like Enderle will find a way to stick the knife in one way or another.  Because the "solution" to this concern over there is to filter all comments through PJ's worldview, the resulting distortion leaves ONLY PJ's worldview.  This totalitarian state of affairs is a far more damaging situation for FOSS than some guy posting an planted post (which would anyway garner a long thread of angry rebuttals, proving nothing for the planter).

> I think she also felt that she didn't need the additional traffic that SE's

Has she said this?  Because you can control search engines' request frequency in robots.txt to be as slow as you like between fetches.  Given the number of pageviews on Grok, a search engine would be lost in the noise anyway.  So this is not a problem.

> She may have other equally good reasons. Do
> you trust her? I feel that in every situation
> that has been observed where PJ has made a
> decision that seemed wrong at the time. Time
> and events have proven her call was correct.

No, I don't trust her.  You sound like you have never come into conflict with her, so I don't doubt you'll go on thinking that you are dealing with the all-seeing, all-wise PJ that you can have faith in -- and that's the word your're looking for, not trust, you have been talking about blind, religious, 'happy' faith in her decisions.  Meanwhile what I have been getting is the fallible, trenchant, overreacting, mistake-making, shrill, unable to apologize bully PJ, so naturally my views changed radically from yours (where they pretty much started, by the way).

> those here are underminding all the work

Grok is still exactly as it was.  What has happened is the start of an alternative to run alongside it.  What you maybe mean is that I and others have had negative things to say about PJ, which strangely enough do not get aired at Grok.

  • Another disservice by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 18:35:21 EST (4.07 / 14)
    • Re: Another disservice by warmcat, 11/18/2004 06:11:56 EST (4.00 / 11)
    • Re: Another disservice by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 18:41:18 EST (3.66 / 6)
  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by ColonelZen, 11/17/2004 13:25:52 EST (3.87 / 8)
  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 12:51:41 EST (1.50 / 14)
    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 12:55:51 EST (4.00 / 8)
      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 16:08:06 EST (2.58 / 12)
        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by sphealey, 11/17/2004 17:33:34 EST (4.60 / 5)
        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by JCausey, 11/17/2004 16:21:01 EST (4.55 / 9)
          • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 18:22:09 EST (1.66 / 6)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/17/2004 18:34:59 EST (3.33 / 3)
        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 18:34:10 EST (4.44 / 9)
          • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by JCausey, 11/17/2004 20:34:21 EST (3.88 / 9)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 20:40:26 EST (3.83 / 6)
              • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by JCausey, 11/17/2004 20:57:38 EST (4.00 / 9)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 23:08:30 EST (4.16 / 6)
                  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mrbuttle, 11/17/2004 23:44:44 EST (4.00 / 9)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by JCausey, 11/18/2004 14:18:30 EST (4.50 / 10)
                      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/18/2004 15:43:50 EST (4.20 / 5)
                      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by ColonelZen, 11/18/2004 16:27:11 EST (3.80 / 5)
                      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 14:34:27 EST (3.40 / 5)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by deepdistrust, 11/18/2004 08:06:58 EST (3.80 / 5)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 23:51:06 EST (3.66 / 9)
                      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 00:11:15 EST (1.20 / 10)
                        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 09:40:16 EST (3.70 / 10)
                  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 23:45:31 EST (3.80 / 5)
                  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/18/2004 02:18:32 EST (3.80 / 5)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 21:02:13 EST (3.33 / 3)
        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 16:16:00 EST (3.87 / 8)
        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/17/2004 17:08:44 EST (3.80 / 5)
          • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by pgk, 11/17/2004 17:12:20 EST (3.60 / 5)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/17/2004 17:13:51 EST (4.33 / 3)
          • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by ColonelZen, 11/17/2004 21:24:30 EST (3.50 / 4)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 21:31:52 EST (3.33 / 3)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/18/2004 02:07:23 EST (3.33 / 3)
        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by ColonelZen, 11/17/2004 17:42:15 EST (3.80 / 5)
          • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/17/2004 18:28:58 EST (2.11 / 9)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by FrogstarRobot, 11/17/2004 23:58:49 EST (4.70 / 10)
              • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 00:02:25 EST (3.00 / 4)
              • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 00:27:53 EST (1.50 / 6)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by infosecgroupie, 11/18/2004 01:18:47 EST (4.44 / 9)
                  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 01:23:32 EST (3.60 / 5)
                  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 03:16:44 EST (1.14 / 7)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 10:12:30 EST (3.87 / 8)
                      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 18:37:43 EST (1.00 / 9)
                        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by ColonelZen, 11/18/2004 19:50:25 EST (4.42 / 7)
                          • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 20:35:11 EST (3.66 / 3)
                        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 20:19:00 EST (3.25 / 4)
                        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by br3n, 11/18/2004 20:11:46 EST (3.00 / 5)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by infosecgroupie, 11/18/2004 09:57:55 EST (3.71 / 7)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by jim01k, 11/18/2004 00:36:55 EST (4.37 / 8)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by br3n, 11/18/2004 00:29:58 EST (3.87 / 8)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 00:47:18 EST (3.60 / 5)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 20:05:48 EST (3.85 / 7)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by br3n, 11/17/2004 19:46:28 EST (3.75 / 4)
              • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 23:14:33 EST (3.50 / 4)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by br3n, 11/18/2004 00:26:57 EST (4.16 / 6)
                  • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by heimdal31, 11/18/2004 01:23:41 EST (3.71 / 7)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by br3n, 11/18/2004 01:39:24 EST (4.25 / 8)
                      • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 08:02:26 EST (4.00 / 7)
                        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by br3n, 11/18/2004 08:38:39 EST (3.85 / 7)
                        • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by pgk, 11/18/2004 08:10:11 EST (3.50 / 6)
                    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 01:31:58 EST (3.87 / 8)
              • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 00:19:59 EST (1.16 / 6)
                • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by ColonelZen, 11/18/2004 00:41:44 EST (4.00 / 5)
            • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by sphealey, 11/18/2004 10:29:17 EST (3.75 / 8)
    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by mikey, 11/17/2004 12:53:47 EST (3.66 / 6)
    • Re: Moved: Why Grok is a single point of failure by warmcat, 11/17/2004 16:25:27 EST (3.62 / 8)
Suggestion for Menu category (4.33 / 3) (#233)
by mugs on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 20:36:03 EST
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Fiduciary Duty & the SEC

This would not only pertain to potential vulnerabilities for SCOX, but a slot like this on IP could also "deep dive" into other equally "friendly" companies. Tedious work, but not something I've seen on any other site.  

The moderation I believe, however, would have to be astute: facts, just the facts, but nonetheless rewarding.

mugsy-
RIGOR MORRIS The cat is dead

NPR story re: Public Domain (4.25 / 4) (#133)
by shanson29 (scott_hanson at yahoo dot com) on Wed Nov 10th, 2004 at 21:36:44 EST
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Story about Political Speeches and Public Domain  Lawrence Lessig is one of the interviewees.  Only available in real and windows media.

http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=4162541

A "Members-Only" lounge? (4.20 / 5) (#257)
by edlin user (edlin_user AT yahoo DOT com) on Thu Nov 18th, 2004 at 00:59:11 EST
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I've enjoyed many of the OT threads on Yahoo!SCOX. Got me thinking.

How about a forum where registered users are free to start a thread on anything? Maybe turn off moderation for the lounge? Maybe allow Potential Recruits in read-only?

---
The Commons, where you meet the nicest people.

  • Re: A "Members-Only" lounge? by nono2sco, 11/18/2004 01:20:24 EST (4.00 / 4)
From DailyKos: philosophy of comment rating (4.20 / 5) (#292)
by sphealey on Thu Nov 18th, 2004 at 21:45:03 EST
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Here is a link to an interesting diary over on DailyKos discussing the philosophy of rating comments.  One difference is that ip-wars has a 1-5 scale which avoids the problem of the "useless 3".

sPh

Re: Free for all comment section (4.20 / 5) (#298)
by wonboodoo on Sat Nov 20th, 2004 at 09:50:22 EST
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Suggestions:
  1. Stories are late in being published compared to other sites. This maybe because the site hasn't built up a critical mass yet. It would be good to have a way of fast-tracking breaking news articles to the front page.
  2. To build up the community the site needs a good slashdotting (resources permitting). So whenever a great article comes up people should submit the story to Slashdot (normally you'll need a breaking-news article for this, so it's related to point 1).
  3. Could you also have a Bulletin Board style chat site associated with IP-Wars and linked to the front page? This would allow more Yahoo-style open discussion not necessarily associated with articles.
  4. Would be nice if you could post images in the comments section, not storing them on your site but being able to link to them on other sites and having them display in the comment (i.e. allow <IMG> HTML).
  5. Split the grok*/OSRM articles into two, one for Groklaw and one for OSRM (I believe someone else already suggested this).


Ratings problems? (4.14 / 7) (#122)
by ColonelZen (tzellers lieth within pobox of thy kingdom com) on Tue Nov 9th, 2004 at 23:02:51 EST
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I noticed that some of my posts were rated none/1 which would have been fine if it meant that somebody clicked all leaving mine not rated.  But I checked and br3n had rated that post a four.  Later checking on the post ratings showed nothing even when it said  people had voted.  And I noticed that I lost my mojo (baby!).

So poking around a bit, here is a post by Tim that I know I rated at 4, and it says so when I view the thread, but the rating says (none/1):

http://www.ip-wars.net/comments/2004/11/8/144642/546?pid=7#8

Is there a problem or is there something else going on I don't yet understand?

-- TWZ

  • Re: Ratings problems? by JCausey, 11/09/2004 23:09:55 EST (4.28 / 7)
    • Re: Ratings problems? by ColonelZen, 11/09/2004 23:15:21 EST (3.00 / 4)
  • Re: Ratings problems? by JohnGabriel, 11/10/2004 19:46:38 EST (3.33 / 3)
I should put up a dozen screenshots (4.00 / 3) (#1)
by ruidh on Thu Nov 4th, 2004 at 09:21:35 EST
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THere are real problems. The page I'm typing this submission on has the title form field right in the Comments Reminder test.

The page I was typing the MPAA story on had the poll instructions right through the story entry field. I literally couldn't see some of the text I was entering and I ended up with a sentance fragment.

The front page has rendering issues as well.
 

  • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by JCausey, 11/04/2004 09:37:27 EST (none / 0)
    • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by pgk, 11/04/2004 11:49:36 EST (4.66 / 3)
      • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by JCausey, 11/04/2004 11:55:27 EST (4.00 / 2)
        • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by pgk, 11/04/2004 11:58:44 EST (5.00 / 1)
          • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by JCausey, 11/04/2004 12:02:34 EST (none / 0)
            • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by pgk, 11/04/2004 12:06:54 EST (4.50 / 2)
        • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by pgk, 11/04/2004 12:03:24 EST (4.00 / 1)
    • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by ruidh, 11/04/2004 09:46:45 EST (4.00 / 2)
      • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by Alawo, 11/04/2004 09:55:50 EST (none / 0)
        • Re: I should put up a dozen screenshots by Alawo, 11/04/2004 09:57:25 EST (none / 0)
Dispatch vs. Logbook (4.00 / 3) (#10)
by heimdal31 (heimdal31_ip_warsNO@SPAM.threenorth.com) on Thu Nov 4th, 2004 at 11:08:19 EST
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What's the difference between a dispatch and a logbook?

Also, in terms of categories, you've got general news, but what about "General Discussion."  I've got in mind posts that are more philosophical regarding some of the larger issues involved in the IP conflicts.  They wouldn't necessarily be newsworthy so wouldn't go in general news, but aren't topic specific enough to place in any of the other areas.

---Tim Rushing

  • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by JCausey, 11/04/2004 11:32:01 EST (4.00 / 1)
    • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by heimdal31, 11/04/2004 12:59:37 EST (4.00 / 3)
      • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by pgk, 11/04/2004 13:03:12 EST (4.00 / 2)
      • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by JCausey, 11/04/2004 13:32:08 EST (3.00 / 1)
        • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by rex007can, 11/04/2004 13:52:02 EST (2.33 / 2)
    • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by mrbuttle, 11/05/2004 22:10:32 EST (none / 1)
      • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook (format corrected) by JCausey, 11/05/2004 23:33:35 EST (3.00 / 1)
  • Re: Dispatch vs. Logbook by JCausey, 11/04/2004 11:30:17 EST (none / 0)
How Do Front Page Stories Get Moderated? (4.00 / 1) (#67)
by nono2sco on Fri Nov 5th, 2004 at 18:45:30 EST
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After the initial Review Reports function how do front page stories get moderated up and down?
____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton
  • Re: How Do Front Page Stories Get Moderated? by JCausey, 11/05/2004 22:41:39 EST (3.00 / 2)
    • Re: How Do Front Page Stories Get Moderated? by nono2sco, 11/05/2004 23:59:20 EST (4.00 / 1)
As Seen on an Internet Near You (4.00 / 4) (#94)
by nono2sco on Sun Nov 7th, 2004 at 11:32:19 EST
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How about a dispatch for interesting things (links) that people see, want to bring attention to, but either don't have time to write a dispatch or the link doesn't warrant its own dispatch.

Lots of interesting SCO information for example was collected by many people looking at many resources.
____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton

  • Re: As Seen on an Internet Near You by ColonelZen, 11/07/2004 11:59:32 EST (4.40 / 5)
Dispatches, Logbooks and Diaries (4.00 / 4) (#116)
by ColonelZen (tzellers lieth within pobox of thy kingdom com) on Tue Nov 9th, 2004 at 17:31:07 EST
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This is as I understand it from my experience.  Jeff (or anyone else) yell if this has changed.  I haven't gone through all the threads above yet so it may have already been cleared up.

There are Dispatches or now Articles, which go through voting and if passed reach the front page.

If on submit Dispatch (now Article),  if you select category "Logbooks" it still goes through the vote process, but when passed will not show up on the front page, but will still be visible to anyone who clicks "Logbooks" on the menu.   This is more or less what I really wanted for my review of the GL review; somewhere to provide a place for discussion but best not to clutter the front page.   Now that I know how it works, I would suggest that "small topics" including, for example interesting threads from SCOX or CKX be posted here.

Personal Logbooks aka Diaries are evidently not working yet.  As I understand you will post them without going through the vote process.  What users will have to do to see your diary, I do not yet know.

-- TWZ

  • Re: Dispatches, Logbooks and Diaries by JCausey, 11/09/2004 21:41:46 EST (none / 2)
    • Re: Dispatches, Logbooks and Diaries by ColonelZen, 11/09/2004 22:14:28 EST (none / 1)
  • Re: Dispatches, Logbooks and Diaries by pgk, 11/10/2004 05:47:12 EST (none / 2)
    • Re: Dispatches, Logbooks and Diaries by mikey, 11/10/2004 11:22:42 EST (3.33 / 3)
Possible to see article votes after it posts? (4.00 / 3) (#137)
by heimdal31 (heimdal31_ip_warsNO@SPAM.threenorth.com) on Thu Nov 11th, 2004 at 17:56:21 EST
(User Info) http://www.threenorth.com/sco
I like the fact that you can not only see who voted voted on individual comments but also see their overall rating of other users.

It does make it easy for anyone who wants to spend the time to try to identify trolls or those trying to game the system.

I also like that before articles are posted, you are able to see how has voted and how.  Is there a way to get at the article votes after the article itself has been posted?

And, on an unrelated note:  Jeff, how well can the website stand up to a Slashdotting?  Not that I think we are likely to see one any time soon--we haven't had any scoops that are of that quality--but I can see it happening someday.  Can IP-Wars.net hold up?


---Tim Rushing

  • Re: Possible to see article votes after it posts? by JCausey, 11/12/2004 10:30:02 EST (4.66 / 3)
Legal Documents Section (4.00 / 3) (#139)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Fri Nov 12th, 2004 at 10:18:46 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
I would like to see a legal documents section here.  Why here?  Because there is no other site that has text versions of the legal documents and allows them to be spidered.  I think it would also be nice to archive old cases in the same manner, the microsoft anti-trust case for example.

Who owns the copyright to publically available court documents, and can anyone apply "their own" licensing (CCL etc...) to them anyway?

I would like to see the display of the documents arranged in some sort of tree-like arrangement, where the case would be at the top, counter claims and such would be major branches, motions and depositions would branch off from the correct place, etc...  You could drill down into particular areas to see what is going on.  What would be really nice is to color code the entire thing, branches that resolved with a denial are red, branches that resolved affirmatively are green, unresolved is yellow (colors used for example only, no disrespect for the color blind intended).

Kind of like how tuxrocks does it with the checkbox expansion, but extend the idea to be more useful...

On the actual storage of pdf's, I seem to recall some sort of freecache service for large files that is sort of like a free akamai service that distributes large files.  Like a web based implementation of bittorrent.  Perhaps we could use that service for the storage of large pdfs?


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  • Re: Legal Documents Section by nono2sco, 11/13/2004 12:46:58 EST (none / 0)
Add License Location to Red Text (4.00 / 3) (#148)
by nono2sco on Sat Nov 13th, 2004 at 13:55:10 EST
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Currently the red text at the top of the main page says:

Notice: Site license changed on Nov. 12, 2004 at 11:18:00 EST.

Can we add a link to where the license can be viewed?
____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton

  • Re: Add License Location to Red Text by nono2sco, 11/15/2004 13:09:19 EST (none / 1)
Can Review Hidden Comments Work Like Review Subs? (4.00 / 3) (#151)
by nono2sco on Sun Nov 14th, 2004 at 11:54:24 EST
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Is there any way to have Review Hidden Comments display the number of hidden comments on the main page as Review Submissions does?

For example:

Review Hidden Comments (3/1 New)

I think this is one area of the board we all need to keep our eyes on, both to be fair and to prevent anyone abusing the system.

This change would make it easy to monitor.
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____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton

  • Re: Can Review Hidden Comments Work Like Review Su by nono2sco, 11/19/2004 20:26:12 EST (3.33 / 3)
Suggestions for the rating system tags (4.00 / 6) (#172)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Tue Nov 16th, 2004 at 11:05:17 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
Perhaps we ought to consider changing the descriptions of the rating system.  Something that more closely resembles the site policy of deleting spam, yet allows people to filter out abusive or offensive posts (trolling).  Something along the lines of:

0 Spam Like
1 Abusive/Offensive
2 Off Topic/Irrelevant
3 On Topic/Relevant
4 Thought Provoking
5 Well Written/Expressed


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  • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by jbellis, 11/16/2004 11:59:56 EST (4.16 / 6)
    • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by nono2sco, 11/16/2004 12:09:51 EST (3.50 / 4)
      • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by br3n, 11/16/2004 12:24:18 EST (3.33 / 3)
        • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by nono2sco, 11/16/2004 12:39:29 EST (3.50 / 4)
          • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by jbellis, 11/16/2004 22:55:14 EST (4.25 / 4)
            • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by nono2sco, 11/16/2004 23:06:36 EST (4.00 / 3)
              • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by jbellis, 11/16/2004 23:32:14 EST (3.83 / 6)
                • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 00:15:33 EST (none / 2)
                • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by mikey, 11/17/2004 01:02:07 EST (none / 2)
                  • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 01:44:38 EST (none / 1)
                    • Re: Suggestions for the rating system tags by mikey, 11/17/2004 03:08:04 EST (none / 1)
Volunteers Section? (4.00 / 3) (#178)
by nono2sco on Tue Nov 16th, 2004 at 16:05:55 EST
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We have had a person or two volunteer to help out :)

Do we want to have a section or place were people can post what they need done and others can post what time and skills they have to offer??
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____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton

  • Re: Volunteers Section? by br3n, 11/16/2004 16:16:20 EST (3.33 / 3)
    • Re: Volunteers Section? by mikey, 11/16/2004 17:11:34 EST (3.33 / 3)
      • Re: Volunteers Section? by br3n, 11/16/2004 18:07:34 EST (none / 2)
Comment Viewing Thresholds? (4.00 / 4) (#192)
by nono2sco on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 10:14:05 EST
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As seen at /. would they make sense here?  Set the default to 2, totally user configurable.  Posts aren't deleted or moved, but it is easy to decide what you want to view.
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____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton
  • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by JCausey, 11/17/2004 10:58:57 EST (3.75 / 4)
    • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 11:05:27 EST (4.00 / 4)
      • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by JCausey, 11/17/2004 11:10:56 EST (3.80 / 5)
        • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by mikey, 11/17/2004 11:44:17 EST (4.00 / 3)
        • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 11:26:14 EST (3.50 / 4)
          • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by nono2sco, 11/17/2004 11:50:09 EST (none / 0)
        • Trusted users by sphealey, 11/17/2004 11:34:46 EST (3.50 / 4)
        • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by mikey, 11/17/2004 11:50:11 EST (none / 2)
          • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by JCausey, 11/17/2004 11:55:23 EST (none / 2)
            • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by mikey, 11/17/2004 12:00:38 EST (none / 0)
          • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by heimdal31, 11/17/2004 13:01:48 EST (none / 1)
            • Re: Comment Viewing Thresholds? by mikey, 11/17/2004 13:03:36 EST (none / 0)
Re: Free for all comment section (4.00 / 3) (#214)
by deepdistrust (deepdistrustspamwelcome@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 16:56:46 EST
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  1. When I have the article open in a mixed-display mode, if I rate a post, the screen refreshes automatically, but positions itself at the top of the article rather than at the comment. Anyway to fix this? (I am using IE from work; don't know if this behavior is IE-specific).

  2. Doesn't the search function search free-for-all comments?


  • Re: Free for all comment section by pgk, 11/17/2004 17:01:43 EST (3.66 / 3)
Suggestions for comments page (4.00 / 3) (#228)
by jim01k on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 19:40:13 EST
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I like having a free-for-all comments section. I have a couple of suggestions to make it more user-friendly.

First, it would be nice to have a "sticky" link on the front page to the comments page.

Also, I've been trying different options for how the comments are displayed. For the regular articles, I like to have the comments nested, with the oldest first. But in the free-for-all, I think it would work better if the default more closely resembled the Yahoo board: flat, with newest first. Also, what happens when the comments number into the thousands? There should be a limit (maybe user-set limit) to the number that appear on a page.

The only other thing that may need changing is where the comments appear. The comments show up below the bottom of the nav boxes on the right, and you have to scroll downpage to see the beginning. Somebody could easily think there are no comments there. Can they be moved up top alongside the nav boxes?

Thanks, Jeff, for the great site! Now if warmcat's pacerbot could report here, we would have little need for the Yahoo board(s).

Also, I just noticed that when I went to preview this comment, I was shown the "comments reminder" text ("First of all, please review our Standard Operating Procedures. We have no desire to own your comments....") rather than my own comment.

-Jim

  • Re: Suggestions for comments page by sphealey, 11/17/2004 20:02:37 EST (4.00 / 3)
The other shoe drops (4.00 / 3) (#278)
by destroy all monsters on Thu Nov 18th, 2004 at 13:28:13 EST
(User Info)
Ballmer Threatens Linux Patent Lawsuits-

From /. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/18/1338228&from=rss

  • Re: The other shoe drops by Potential Recruit, 11/18/2004 15:47:08 EST (2.00 / 3)
  • Re: The other shoe drops by heimdal31, 11/18/2004 13:50:25 EST (none / 2)
I'm clumsy (4.00 / 3) (#296)
by rweait (ipwars*weait,com) on Fri Nov 19th, 2004 at 01:09:53 EST
(User Info) http://www.dyoh.com/
In the login block, I have
username   ___
password   ___
login send password

And I keep hitting the send password button when I want to log in.  Could somebody come over here and smack me until I learn to read?  Or, could the login button be bigger / closer and the send password button smaller / further down?  

Cheers,  ;-)
~ R.W.
This comment is licensed under a Creative Commons License.

Voting limits (4.00 / 4) (#299)
by pgk (PG_King zzzzzzz (yahoo.com)) on Tue Nov 23rd, 2004 at 08:33:27 EST
(User Info)
We seem to have more people taking interest in the articles and voting for them, both Mikey's and Andy's articles seemed to filter through fairly quickly. Is it time to increase the required votes?


  • Re: Voting limits by JCausey, 11/23/2004 09:10:12 EST (4.00 / 4)
  • Re: Voting limits by nono2sco, 11/23/2004 12:00:15 EST (4.00 / 4)
  • Re: Voting limits by mck9, 11/23/2004 13:37:32 EST (4.00 / 7)
    • Re: Voting limits by mikey, 11/23/2004 14:14:24 EST (3.66 / 6)
      • Re: Voting limits by pgk, 11/23/2004 16:05:02 EST (3.75 / 4)
Google being sued for copyright infringement (4.00 / 3) (#306)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Tue Nov 23rd, 2004 at 18:09:08 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/news/38415.html

Apparently images.google.com was including porn thumbnails from this company after they requested google to stop.  Will be interesting to see how this pans out.  I wonder if the porn company was using robots.txt and if google was respecting it...


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  • Re: Google being sued for copyright infringement by nono2sco, 11/23/2004 18:16:53 EST (none / 2)
Request regarding the submission queue (4.00 / 3) (#308)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Wed Nov 24th, 2004 at 10:36:29 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
Jeff, is there any way to have some sort of indicator that articles in the submission queue are ready for a vote?  Perhaps a different background color or something?

Right now articles in the edit queue and articles ready for a vote both are displayed with a grey background.  I would be helpful to know at a quick glance when an article leaves the edit queue and is ready for a vote...


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  • Re: Request regarding the submission queue by nono2sco, 11/24/2004 10:56:36 EST (3.66 / 3)
  • Re: Request regarding the submission queue by JCausey, 11/24/2004 19:52:31 EST (3.60 / 5)
    • Re: Request regarding the submission queue by jbellis, 11/24/2004 20:15:09 EST (3.50 / 4)
      • Re: Request regarding the submission queue by hgc, 12/04/2004 20:45:14 EST (3.80 / 5)
        • Re: Request regarding the submission queue by mikey, 12/05/2004 04:36:21 EST (3.66 / 3)
Potential Recruits and Polls (4.00 / 3) (#314)
by nono2sco on Thu Nov 25th, 2004 at 13:21:02 EST
(User Info)
How are potential recruits handled in polls?

It looks like members get one vote per poll, what about PR's?

Also is there anyway to break the results down by members/non-members?  Not the graph, just the numbers to the right of the bars and the total at the bottom.
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  • Re: Potential Recruits and Polls by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 13:17:05 EST (none / 2)
    • Re: Potential Recruits and Polls by jbellis, 12/01/2004 13:44:53 EST (3.66 / 3)
      • Re: Potential Recruits and Polls by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 13:49:08 EST (3.33 / 3)
        • Re: Potential Recruits and Polls by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 13:57:49 EST (3.66 / 3)
          • Re: Potential Recruits and Polls by jbellis, 12/01/2004 14:27:05 EST (3.66 / 3)
Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In (4.00 / 3) (#315)
by nono2sco on Sat Nov 27th, 2004 at 01:25:40 EST
(User Info)
I am not sure why we have this.  It would seem to encourage people to make anonymous posts that have logins.

If they really want to post anon let them logoff.

Just my opinion, hopefully food for thought.
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____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton

  • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by mikey, 11/27/2004 13:37:06 EST (3.66 / 3)
    • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by br3n, 11/27/2004 13:59:57 EST (3.00 / 3)
      • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by mikey, 11/27/2004 14:44:41 EST (4.00 / 4)
        • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by br3n, 11/27/2004 14:55:30 EST (3.00 / 3)
          • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by nono2sco, 11/27/2004 16:05:26 EST (3.50 / 4)
            • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by mikey, 11/27/2004 16:10:00 EST (3.00 / 4)
              • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by nono2sco, 11/27/2004 16:24:05 EST (3.33 / 3)
          • Re: Remove Ability to Post as a PR When Logged In by mikey, 11/27/2004 16:08:32 EST (3.00 / 3)
Can anyone see this? (4.00 / 4) (#326)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Sun Nov 28th, 2004 at 17:28:47 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
Don't know if I am still sandboxed at groklaw or not, can anyone see a post from at:

http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20041121063628466&title=The%20Issue%20Of %20Authorial%20Attribution%20Will%20Not%20Go%20Away&type=article&order=ASC&hideanonymous =0&pid=243455#c243648

The beginning of the post is:


Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, November 28 2004 @ 05:12 PM EST

PJ, my groklaw account (mikey) was deleted without warning or explanation, in spite of two emails from me asking you for an explanation. When I posted these comments to groklaw, I understood the site as a collection to be licensed under a non-commercial CCL. In my mind this made the goals and operation of groklaw in line with the nature of other free/open source related sites. In light of recent clarifications of the licensing policies of groklaw (which I view as changed, not clarification) and the removal of attribution from my copyrighted comments, I would rather my comments be deleted in their entirety.




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  • Re: Can anyone see this? by pgk, 11/28/2004 17:32:41 EST (3.25 / 4)
    • Re: Can anyone see this? by mikey, 11/28/2004 17:34:58 EST (none / 2)
Fixing groklaw's attribution problems (4.00 / 4) (#330)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Wed Dec 1st, 2004 at 11:07:56 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
I took PJ up on her word in the thread The Issue of Authorial Attribution Will Not Go Away.

For the rest, feel free to contact MathFox with any fully formed solutions, or better yet, go to Geeklog and when you code the solution, offer it to the world.  We're all in the same boat.

In this reply, I informed her that I did just that, coded a solution and submitted it to geeklog.  It is now available as a geeklog Add-In called glrevive.

This is only half of the solution, it allows the batch revival of deleted users.  Perhaps this evening I will have time to create a re-attribute patch...


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  • Re: Fixing groklaw's attribution problems by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 11:14:21 EST (4.00 / 3)
  • Re: Fixing groklaw's attribution problems by br3n, 12/01/2004 11:25:23 EST (3.33 / 3)
    • Re: Fixing groklaw's attribution problems by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 11:39:29 EST (none / 2)
  • Another Patch Posted by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 13:20:50 EST (none / 2)
    • Re: Another Patch Posted by mikey, 12/01/2004 17:29:56 EST (3.50 / 4)
      • Re: Another Patch Posted by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 17:42:49 EST (3.75 / 4)
        • Re: Another Patch Posted by pgk, 12/01/2004 17:50:19 EST (3.60 / 5)
          • Re: Another Patch Posted by mikey, 12/02/2004 03:14:32 EST (4.75 / 4)
          • Re: Another Patch Posted by nono2sco, 12/01/2004 17:57:17 EST (4.00 / 4)
          • Re: Another Patch Posted by mikey, 12/02/2004 03:21:25 EST (4.00 / 4)
More Obvious Submissions Pending Display (4.00 / 3) (#346)
by nono2sco on Sat Dec 4th, 2004 at 00:29:21 EST
(User Info)
Since we have to get votes to post stories we need a more obvious display to let people know that submissions are pending their review, especially those ready to be voted on.

Right now the display is a bit too easy to miss, maybe something in the Main Menu box?

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____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton

  • Re: More Obvious Submissions Pending Display by mikey, 12/04/2004 01:47:57 EST (3.50 / 4)
User/Site Stats (4.00 / 5) (#350)
by nono2sco on Mon Dec 6th, 2004 at 14:47:32 EST
(User Info)
I think we should publish whatever user/site stats we can.  

For example a user on CKX was able to get the following info:

IPW stats
by: data_pipeline     12/06/04 01:09 pm
Msg: 6084 of 6108

As of earlier today:

3200 total comments
2802 by registered members
398 by 'potential recruits'

The top ten posters account for:

88% of all comments (2282 comments - including all 'potential recruits' grouped as one account)
70% of all comments (1966 comments) minus 'potential recruits'

Five missing or deleted account id's:

11
54
62
109
113

55% of all registered users have posted less than two total comments.

72% of all registered users have posted less than five total comments

We should just provide the info and any explanation necessary.

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Please add downhillbattle.org to links (4.00 / 5) (#351)
by destroy all monsters on Fri Dec 10th, 2004 at 01:41:24 EST
(User Info)
They're fighting a different but still IP battle that I think we'd do well to ally ourselves with.

  • Re: Please add downhillbattle.org to links by heimdal31, 12/11/2004 00:28:02 EST (none / 2)
Re: Free for all comment section (3.83 / 6) (#9)
by JCausey (jcausey@ip-wars.net) on Thu Nov 4th, 2004 at 10:54:05 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
For our early visitors, you may note that I have made some minor tweaks to both the Standard Operating Procedures page (where all the legal stuff is explained) and in the Comments Reminder (used on the form for submitting comments).

Basically, I cleared up some language regarding the deletion of posts. Hopefully it more clearly expresses my intent that posts are not deleted. I will be working on the FAQ for the site though so everyone can better understand how the rating system and how it is that posts may become "invisible" and what that means. If you are just to eager to wait for that though, you might want to visit either kuro5hin.org or dailykos.com and review their explanations (because what I write up will end up being similar). Thanks!!!

Sections Request (3.83 / 6) (#115)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Tue Nov 9th, 2004 at 17:21:44 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
Jeff, I noticed a couple of new sections popping up today.  I have a couple of requests.

Can you move my prior articles to their appropriate sections?

And...

Perhaps a Groklaw section would be appropriate for all topics related to grok*/osrm.

  • Site Policy Section by heimdal31, 11/10/2004 09:31:40 EST (4.25 / 4)
  • Re: Sections Request by JCausey, 11/09/2004 21:37:15 EST (4.00 / 4)
    • Re: Sections Request by mikey, 11/09/2004 21:59:36 EST (3.60 / 5)
Re: Free for all comment section (3.80 / 5) (#191)
by yern4 on Wed Nov 17th, 2004 at 09:51:45 EST
(User Info)
I don't like the front page.  Well, part of it. The
Red text in the notice and operating proceedures messes up the clean
looks of the rest of it.

Change it to something like:
<head1>Changes/Notices<head1>
Then use the same schema the rest of the front page uses.

Yern4

  • Re: Free for all comment section by DirtyDriver, 11/17/2004 11:14:59 EST (4.25 / 4)
Interesting PR pattern (3.80 / 5) (#358)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Sat Dec 11th, 2004 at 23:41:59 EST
(User Info) http://www.ip-wars.net
Has anyone else noticed that the PR's have been stirring the shit up non stop since about 3am this morning.

Yet interestingly, they stopped posting between 12:23 and 1:42.

Hmm, the PR's all took a lunch break at the same time.

http://www.ip-wars.net/?op=search&offset=90&old_count=30&type=comment_by&topic=& section=&string=Potential+Recruit&count=30&last=%3C%3C+Previous+Page


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  • Re: Interesting PR pattern by nono2sco, 12/11/2004 23:56:30 EST (3.50 / 4)
Parent Frame (3.75 / 4) (#88)
by nono2sco on Sun Nov 7th, 2004 at 10:54:18 EST
(User Info)
It would be nice if IP-Wars displayed the parent post that you were replying to on the comment composition page a la Y! where it is displayed to the right of the composition box.
____ "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton
  • Re: Parent Frame by groendraak, 11/07/2004 13:31:04 EST (4.00 / 3)
  • Re: Parent Frame by pgk, 11/07/2004 11:14:15 EST (3.00 / 1)
    • Re: Parent Frame by nono2sco, 11/07/2004 18:22:19 EST (4.00 / 2)
Users Guide? (3.75 / 4) (#101)
by crunchie812 on Mon Nov 8th, 2004 at 00:28:50 EST
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We seem to need some kind of user's guide explaining how the comment rating, display options, story posting, etc. works.  The admin guide that comes with the software is good but is oriented towards the (duh) sys admin type.

Scoop takes a bit of getting used to, and people coming from message boards with such as Y! or sites with no user moderation may find the options daunting and be put off.

Gathering some of the posts from CKX on the Yahoo vs IWP ratings thread would be a good start, warmcat & heimdal had some good explanations.

I have been playing around a little, any recs under my ID are of the "what happens if I do this" type. I'd give it a go but I'm still figuring it out myself.

  • Re: Users Guide? by nono2sco, 11/08/2004 01:00:21 EST (3.50 / 2)
    • Re: Users Guide? by crunchie812, 11/08/2004 02:14:06 EST (3.50 / 4)
Kudos to Jeff (3.75 / 4) (#295)
by mikey (mikey at badpenguins dot com) on Fri Nov 19th, 2004 at 01:00:13 EST
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For fixing the cookie problem, enabling edit in the submission queue, adding a link box, fixing the header text colors, changing the rating labels, adding the target href tag, and whatever else you have fixed that I didn't notice :)


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Pseudo-identities for Potential Recruits (3.75 / 4) (#329)
by mck9 (mck9 at swbell.,net) on Mon Nov 29th, 2004 at 14:15:11 EST
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(nono2sco suggested that I repost this idea where it would be more visible.)

As we have discussed before, one of the problems with Potential Recruits is that you can't tell one PR from another.  As a result it can be difficult to follow a discussion because you can't tell who is responding to whom.

One suggestion was to publish the PR's IP address, or a partial IP address.  This suggestion raised obvious concerns about preserving anonymity, and was apparently (and appropriately) dropped.

Another possibility is to use a one-way hashing scheme to mangle the IP address into something unrecognizable but reasonably distinct.  For example: add the four numbers of the IP address, divide the sum by 997 (or some other suitable prime number), and take the remainder.  The result could be used to tag the particular PR as distinct from other PRs without compromising his or her anonymity.

MD5 is a more robust hashing scheme but it is probably overkill for a four byte field.

This idea is not foolproof.  Occasionally two unrelated IP addresses may hash to the same value.  A given PR may post from multiple IP addresses for any of several reasons.

Most of the time, however, such a scheme would provide useful pseudo-identities that could help us follow the flow of a discussion.

Re: Free for all comment section (3.66 / 6) (#6)
by rex007can on Thu Nov 4th, 2004 at 10:06:27 EST
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well. Everything's coming out perfect here. Guess everyone will have to start using Linux and Mozilla...
;-)

.... If you love it, set it free.
If it doesn't come back.
Hunt it down, tie it in the yard, and for GOD's sake,
have the thing neutered...

  • Re: Free for all comment section by ruidh, 11/04/2004 10:25:41 EST (5.00 / 2)
    • Re: Free for all comment section by rex007can, 11/04/2004 10:29:33 EST (3.00 / 3)
      • Re: Free for all comment section by mikey, 11/04/2004 20:57:09 EST (5.00 / 2)
FAQs (3.66 / 3) (#129)
by pgk (PG_King zzzzzzz (yahoo.com)) on Wed Nov 10th, 2004 at 06:10:15 EST
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Jeff,

Had a look at the updated FAQs and have couple of comments.

The example screenshot you use to explain comment details probably needs to be changed since it's one dealing with ratings and is misleading (0 != none)

Is seems to me that the option to not rate sometimes is the fairest (e.g. Dupes, mistakes etc.) is it worth mentioning that in the rating section?

Paul.