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Stallman wins his bet?

By codswallet, Section Diary
Posted on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 00:42:49 EST

In the beginning of last month, the L4-Hurd group got the first progarm to compile and run.

The old Mach version was just too slow and work ground to a halt when there seemed no way to fix it. The switch to the L4 kernel appears to have brought the project back to life.

L4-HURD has immense superiorities to Linux in a number of areas. The big question is performance. It looks like they might have that solved. If so, the vastly simpler and cleaner internal structure will make it possible to decentralize kernel software development and avoid the Linus bottleneck problem that Linux has.

It's early to make predictions, but I think in 6 months we'll know how it's going to turn out. The simpler design gives the project a lot leverage. Everything should be much easier to do. If they do well with the VM (it's not part of the kernel, but Hurd still needs one) and the device driver model, the rest should be easy.

The BSDs may be alternatives to Linux, cleaner internally and more secure, but the advantages aren't compelling. This may be different. Check back in October. The Foss Unix landscape could look very different. L4-HURD might be just the thing for the cell processor.

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Stallman wins his bet? | 58 comments (58 topical, 0 editorial, 2 hidden)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? (3.85 / 7) (#3)
by heurtley on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 08:06:03 EST
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According to the Hurd What's New? page:

http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/whatsnew.html

This is the first news since August 2003.

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by codswallet, 03/30/2005 11:57:59 EST (3.80 / 5)

Right. Let's move along then. (3.75 / 8) (#5)
by sphealey on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 11:16:47 EST
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Can you name me three people who will ever install and use the Hurd kernel for anything other than amusement value? Had it been usable in 1992, perhaps, but not today or any time I can see in the future.

sPh

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by mikey, 03/30/2005 13:28:18 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by sphealey, 03/30/2005 16:12:18 EST (3.71 / 7)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by Full Auto, 03/30/2005 22:31:09 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by mikey, 03/30/2005 23:01:14 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by sphealey, 03/31/2005 08:11:32 EST (3.83 / 6)
Re: Right. Let's move along then. by Full Auto, 03/31/2005 01:43:31 EST (3.66 / 6)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by br3n, 03/31/2005 07:49:56 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by ColonelZen, 03/31/2005 21:48:19 EST (4.00 / 7)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by Sunny, 04/01/2005 01:06:15 EST (3.75 / 4)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by Full Auto, 03/31/2005 21:25:24 EST (3.66 / 6)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by br3n, 04/01/2005 08:50:05 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by mikey, 03/30/2005 22:01:08 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by Sunny, 03/30/2005 13:58:28 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by codswallet, 03/30/2005 14:04:13 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by ColonelZen, 03/30/2005 14:21:05 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by codswallet, 04/01/2005 11:30:29 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by ColonelZen, 04/01/2005 11:51:24 EST (3.66 / 6)

Re: Right. Let's move along then. by nono2sco, 03/30/2005 14:53:48 EST (3.25 / 4)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? (3.40 / 5) (#1)
by AncientBrit on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 05:55:30 EST
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This is very interesting.
Hope it's not just a rumour.
Can you give any links?

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by codswallet, 03/30/2005 07:16:45 EST (3.85 / 7)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? (3.33 / 6) (#4)
by br3n on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 08:59:16 EST
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ok here is where my lack of knowledge makes it difficult for me.
i have chatted with 2 different people that are running? the HURDkernel.now what that means i dont know but i will have to ask them what the L4 is to them and see what they think.my question here is,as a nontechie do you forsee where i need to move to it?i dont run servers or have users log on.
is this more for businesses?

br3n

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by ColonelZen, 03/30/2005 12:02:23 EST (4.00 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by br3n, 03/30/2005 12:09:33 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by ColonelZen, 03/30/2005 12:27:39 EST (4.00 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by Sunny, 03/30/2005 13:49:46 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by ColonelZen, 03/30/2005 14:12:37 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by Sunny, 03/30/2005 14:45:05 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by AncientBrit, 03/30/2005 14:17:11 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by Sunny, 03/30/2005 14:54:02 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by AncientBrit, 03/30/2005 16:25:05 EST (3.80 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by codswallet, 03/30/2005 21:05:38 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by AncientBrit, 03/30/2005 15:17:28 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by br3n, 03/30/2005 12:41:52 EST (3.75 / 4)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by ColonelZen, 03/30/2005 13:06:06 EST (4.00 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by mikey, 03/30/2005 13:35:28 EST (3.75 / 4)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by mikey, 03/30/2005 13:33:30 EST (4.00 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by br3n, 03/30/2005 13:53:58 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by mikey, 03/30/2005 22:18:48 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by FrogstarRobot, 03/31/2005 14:52:22 EST (3.85 / 7)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by AncientBrit, 03/31/2005 16:45:36 EST (4.00 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by FrogstarRobot, 04/01/2005 07:13:44 EST (3.66 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by AncientBrit, 04/01/2005 16:37:39 EST (3.50 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by Sunny, 04/01/2005 16:51:20 EST (4.00 / 7)
Re: Stallman wins his bet? by mikey, 04/01/2005 21:20:11 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by FrogstarRobot, 04/03/2005 21:45:41 EST (3.83 / 6)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by mikey, 04/04/2005 01:09:25 EST (3.71 / 7)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by mikey, 04/04/2005 01:11:46 EST (3.33 / 3)

2.6/3.4 by Potential Recruit, 04/03/2005 13:07:52 EST (3.50 / 4)

Personal Linux history by ColonelZen, 03/30/2005 13:57:03 EST (3.60 / 5)

Re: Stallman wins his bet? by codswallet, 03/30/2005 12:16:15 EST (4.00 / 6)

Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#56)
by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:01:58 EST

This used to be a spambot post that is flooding the site. Due to volume, I had to resort to this while I work to block access by these bots. My apologies - thanks for your patience.

Jeff

Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#57)
by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:02:03 EST

This used to be a spambot post that is flooding the site. Due to volume, I had to resort to this while I work to block access by these bots. My apologies - thanks for your patience.

Jeff

Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#58)
by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 14:29:15 EST

This used to be a spambot post that is flooding the site. Due to volume, I had to resort to this while I work to block access by these bots. My apologies - thanks for your patience.

Jeff

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