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What is Unix worth?


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By codswallet, Section Diary
Posted on Mon Apr 11th, 2005 at 18:28:01 EST

Ever wonder what the different companies that tossed Unix around like a hot potato actually paid and what they thought it was worth, once they had bought it?

If we start with Novell buying the part of USL it didn't own in 1993, it looks like they paid around $344 million, mostly in stock and immediately wrote down $268.7 million, leaving a net of $85 million. This includes not only Unix, but also Tuxedo, the technology Novell donated to start Univel, and probably other stuff besides.

The Santa Cruz Operation bought a portion of this, not including Tuxedo or the System V royalty stream for, around $53 million - mostly 6,127,500 shares of stock worth $43.773 million and the assumption of $9.3 million in liabilities for a total of about $53 million. They also agreed to pay royalties capped at $84 million net present value conditional on meeting certain sales milestones. Santa Cruz immediately wrote of $35.959 million of purchased R&D, leaving a net of about $17 million.

The accounting on both sides is seriously opaque in this pre-SOX era, Novell recorded a small profit and payment of $19 million in royalties as part of the deal. Without much evidence to support the guess, I'm putting Santa Cruz's actual cost for what they later sold to Caldera at $50 million.

When Caldera bought the Unix business from Santa Cruz, they paid $93.787 million. This, however was for both Unixware and OpenServer, so only around 2/3 of it is payment for what Santa Cruz received from Novell. So they paid $61 million for what Santa Cruz had bought for $50 million. $59.721 million of this was stock and options. The stock promptly crashed, and Santa Cruz (now Tarantella) wrote off almost all of this. Only $23 million was cash.

In valuing the purchased assets, Caldera allotted $66.080 million to goodwill, with the amusing result that the worthless goodwill is almost entirely paid for with worthless stock - a fair exchange, of sorts. I don't think either side was under any illusion that this wasn't the right way to look at it.

Caldera valued the combined OpenServer and UnixWare technologies at $5.8 million. The prize purchase was the reseller channel, which was valued at $26.7 million.

This isn't the end, though, because the Caldera accountants decided that even these numbers were too large, and wrote them down to $1.8 million and $12.4 million respectively. So in 2001, Caldera thought the technology for Unixware and OpenServer together was worth $1.8 million. For damages to this magnificent asset they are asking IBM to pay a paltry few billion dollars. It seems only fair.

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Re: What was Unix worth? (3.66 / 3) (#7)
by peragrin (falconr@juno.com) on Fri Apr 22nd, 2005 at 08:40:14 EST
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There is some disagreement on the stock option part of Novell to AT&T over USL.  the $268 million came rigt from petty cash.  Also note Novell was a minor partner in USL with AT&T before hand.  That additional $70 million could be that value before hand.

All in all you have done a very through investigation into Unixware and Open Server.  Both of which are older product lines that have never been able to merge together.  For whatever reason Unixware and Open Server are like Oil and Water no matter how hard you try they can't be mixed and everytime they are people get sick from the oil in their water.
I thought once I was found but it was only a dream

Re: What is Unix worth? (3.50 / 4) (#1)
by br3n on Mon Apr 11th, 2005 at 19:02:38 EST
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i dont understand how damages are figured but i do think deliberate has extra price tacked on? how can a few million even come close to being worth billions in damages?

br3n
  • Re: What is Unix worth? by FrogstarRobot, 04/11/2005 20:07:22 EST (3.60 / 5)
    • Re: What is Unix worth? by codswallet, 04/11/2005 21:04:19 EST (4.20 / 5)
      • Re: What is Unix worth? by pgk, 04/12/2005 02:26:55 EST (3.75 / 4)
      • Re: What is Unix worth? by br3n, 04/11/2005 21:33:45 EST (3.66 / 3)
        • Re: What is Unix worth? by codswallet, 04/11/2005 22:50:08 EST (4.00 / 4)
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