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Conference call notes


SCO v The World

By ColonelZen, Section Diary
Posted on Wed Apr 13th, 2005 at 23:10:58 EST

Notes I made listening to the call.  I had to leave about 5:40 (EDT).

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20 mil cash 5 mil escrowed. (EO '04)

70k SCO source!

Less than 7.4mil uncommitted. EOQ1.

SVN SUN opensourcing Solaris. Darl says no conflict.

(For)Dion Cornett... ca 21 mil fully diluted shares.

Renaissance Ventures: Compuware. (setup IMO) Darl says IBM Bad!

Al Petrofsky: Running engr. Gupta great says Darl. Hearing timings.

MOG: 70k SCO source. Some from prior licensees No identities.
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Evidently Darl went on a PJ/GL rampage after I left off.  I genuinely suspect he is trying to reignite Grokwar.  For my part, sorry Darl, I'm all out...  but congrats to PJ for getting on your nerves!  From the talk on Y it sounds hysterical.

Evidently Bob Mims followed up McBride's rant. this.  I expect to see something interesting about this in the SLT shortly.

The bit that worries me is that answering SVJN's question on Sun Open-sourcing solaris, McBride said they saw no problems.   I'm worried that there may be money coming in from Sun (funnelled in from MS, undoubtedly) to "pay" for those "rights".  

The bottom line is that as of end of Q1 SCOX had 7.4 in uncommitted cash plus about 5Mil escrowed for legal expenses.  I don't know how that translates into TTL but it's not very good for a company with 200 people and a new product launch.

I had predicted Legend would be delayed.  Looks like I was wrong.  Financially IMO it will be a legendary flop with a couple mil spent on publicity and virtually no new revenue generated.

I have also previously predicted a settlement between IBM and Yarro (which would extinguish SCO this year).   I still think that likely and that Yarro is trying to play hardball.  If he gets Sun/MS to back his play financially he can keep things in the courts another two years.   Without that, though I'm not an accountant, it looks to me like SCO probably has 2-3, maybe four or five by reducing SCOX to a shell, quarters TTL, and it would be in Yarro's interest to settle before formal bankruptcy.

-- TWZ

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The Duty to be a Rational Shareholder (4.33 / 6) (#8)
by nedu (nedu@netscape.net) on Fri Apr 15th, 2005 at 23:03:49 EST
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Lawrence Solum highly recommends a new paper by David A. Hoffman (Temple University, James E. Beasley School of Law) entitled The Duty to be a Rational Shareholder (University of Minnesota Law Review, 2005).

Abstract:
How and when do courts determine that corporate disclosures are actionable under the federal securities laws? The applicable standard is materiality: would a (mythical) reasonable investor have considered a given disclosure important. As I establish through empirical and statistical testing of approximately 500 cases analyzing the materiality standard, judicial findings of immateriality are remarkably common, and have been stable over time. Materiality's scope results in the dismissal of a large number of claims, and creates a set of cases in which courts attempt to explain and defend their vision of who is, and is not, a reasonable investor. Thus, materiality provides an ideal lens through which to examine courts' understanding of behavioral psychology and how the insights of that discipline should inform legal decision making.

Significantly, judges have shifted from standards-based to bright-line tests over time, increasingly imposing on investors a duty to behave in economically rational ways in response to corporate disclosures, or risk losing the benefit of legal protections from securities fraud. From this shift, I derive a duty to act as a rational shareholder, attaching to every investor in the public capital markets. Because experimental evidence suggests that women and minorities have different financial risk preferences than white men, courts' applications of this duty may result in privileging white, male investors at the expense of all others. Finally, the very existence of a duty attaching to mere share ownership has the potential to significantly change the way we evaluate those corporate governance models which assume shareholder passivity.

I haven't read this paper yet, but Professor Solum's recommendation is worth more than mine anyhow. And from the abstract, this paper seems likely to be relevant.



Re: Conference call notes (4.25 / 8) (#4)
by JCausey (jcausey@ip-wars.net) on Fri Apr 15th, 2005 at 08:42:22 EST
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Just some various comments from reviewing both the 10K and 10Q just released (keep in mind I'm not used to reviewing private sector financial statements).

From the balance sheet, their accounts receivable is quite a bit lower, suggesting they got a lot of their cash from collecting on accounts - not from new sales.  Of course, that is supported by their income statement where we continue to see both product and service sales slipping.  It would be nice to know how much of those sales are stuff already in the pipeline versus new customers (if any).  Anyway, despite any claims otherwise, it looks like their UNIX business is not generating any income or cash.  I also noted on their balance sheet that they apparently sold off about $1M of their computer and equipment assets (at least, it was taken off the books).  That represents about 1/3 of their starting balance for that.  I can only guess that is a sizeable chunk of their assets.

On the flip side, they also took care of a lot of liabilities, especially accounts payable.  This includes a bunch they owed attorneys for the past year.  I find it interesting that they are now on this $2M every couple months payment plan.  I wonder who set that up - SCO or BSF et al wanting their money.  Anyway, it does look like about $3.5M per quarter in legal expenses, so about $14M this year?

So, even though they brought in a lot of cash from collecting AR they paid a bunch out to clear their AP.  And looking at their cash flow statements, it is clear operations was a cash outflow for them.

I've seen reports that they are down to 160 or so employees - in other words, more cuts.  With that and looking at the financial statements, it looks to me like they are on a path to winding down their operations.  Despite the apparent dreams of McBride to create a software powerhouse, it certainly looks like they are on a path to becoming a litigation shell company.

I was going to call in to the CC but was unable to make it.  The couple questions I would have liked asked were:

  1. They have indicated Legend is not expected to generate new business.  It appears they are losing existing business as well.  Given that many are predicting they will run out of cash in only a few more quarters and they have not revealed any plans to bring in new revenue, can they comment on why anyone predicting their pending bankruptcy would be wrong?

  2. From their 10K and other statements, they had 200 employees, 193 of which were working in their UNIX divisions.  That leaves 7 committed solely for SCOsource.  I also noted they spent about $2M on SCOsource last year that was not legal fees.  Could they explain what the employees devoted to SCOsource are doing and what they've spent $2M on? (as I haven't seen anything out of them that would have required $2M)

Just some thoughts.

Jeff

  • Re: Conference call notes by sphealey, 04/15/2005 09:43:20 EST (4.00 / 6)
  • Re: Conference call notes by codswallet, 04/15/2005 12:56:37 EST (3.83 / 6)
10-Q filed (4.16 / 6) (#3)
by fudisbad on Thu Apr 14th, 2005 at 22:36:31 EST
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It's on Edgar: Click here




Darl McBride, show your evidence!
Back a stock scam, buy SCOXE!
  • Re: 10-Q filed by FrogstarRobot, 04/15/2005 20:52:11 EST (3.80 / 5)
Re: Conference call notes (3.66 / 6) (#1)
by br3n on Thu Apr 14th, 2005 at 16:48:59 EST
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ty for the notes
i dont have sound so couldnt listen
i will just say that PJ didnt do it all herself ,she is just a convenient target for darl.
i really believe some money will come in from somewhere so that scox doesnt go bankrupt yet.
now i dont know how they plan on getting before a jury but if they manage to get anything before a jury they will win something.
sigh

br3n
  • Re: Conference call notes by FrogstarRobot, 04/14/2005 19:33:03 EST (3.66 / 6)
Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#10)
by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:54:16 EST
This used to be a spambot post that is flooding the site. Due to volume, I had to resort to this while I work to block access by these bots. My apologies - thanks for your patience.

Jeff

Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#11)
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Jeff

Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#12)
by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 12:21:02 EST
This used to be a spambot post that is flooding the site. Due to volume, I had to resort to this while I work to block access by these bots. My apologies - thanks for your patience.

Jeff

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