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By ColonelZen, Section Diary
Posted on Sat Jul 16th, 2005 at 22:49:40 EST


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/17/technology/17spy.html

It's NYT with free and not-as-bad-as-some registration required.   FF blocked some popups reading the story, which I regard as highly amusing given the story.

It seems that some people getting frustrated with their computers slowing to a crawl or hanging intermittently are, rather than learning to clean them up or doing what we would think of as obvious, are just throwing them out.

With a PC costing around $400 and people presuming some significant value to their time when it could take many hours to clean up their systems this seems to make economic sense.

Of course you'd think that the rapidly rising price of gas might be a signal to some that it's time to reexamine some economic assumptions.

Naturally we get a good laugh out of this.  Linux is enormously less vulnerable to these maladies, essentially invulnerable to most, Esepecially if we make firefox with pop-up blocking and flash blocking our defaults.

Me, I think I'll take an ad in the local paper:

"YOUR COMPUTER DYING?  TOO SLOW?   SO DISEASED YOUR READY TO GET RID OF IT?   Free disconnect and take-away 610-xxx-xxxx.    

Linux Machines for sale.  Fast, reliable, no spyware, no viruses.  Red Hat Standard pre-installed.  $100-200 walk away price, full refund or upgrade if you can't make it work.  Custom setup for special needs available.  610-xxx-xxxx.

-- TWZ

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Sounds ridiculous but... (3.85 / 7) (#6)
by sphealey on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 08:27:20 EST
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At first blush it sounds ridiculous.  But my son recently asked me why we didn't open a business fixing spyware infestations on neighborhood computers, since we spend so much time doing it for friends anyway.  I walked him through the economics, which is basically that (a) no one will pay more than $75 for such a service (b) you could just barely make a living at $75/repair (c) IF and only if you never encountered a tough problem.  

It takes about 2 hours to fix the usual infestations, but about 1 out of 10 times something goes wrong and it takes 10 hours.  At $75 fixed cost, you are doomed.  And no one ever has all their CDs, license, keys, etc that would be needed for a full scrub and reinstall.

So, I don't advocate this approach, but it is not totally unrealistic either.

sPh

Re: Win users throwing out their old computers... (3.83 / 6) (#3)
by deepdistrust (deepdistrustspamwelcome@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 18th, 2005 at 23:39:05 EST
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This is how Microsoft helps the economy! When they are not throwing their computers away to buy new computers, Windows users are buying anti-virus products, anti-spyware programs, disk-cleaners etc etc. PC market place is a vibrant one (atleast until Microsoft starts making anti-virus products, anti-spyware programs and disk-cleaners)!

Still, I don't know how people get into so much trouble with their Windows PC's. Is it the P2P programs, or the IE-Outlook duo? I have been using my Windows XP laptop heavily for the last couple of months, and I haven't had a single malaware problem. The wireless router has a firewall, and I use Thunderbird for email, Firefox for most surfing and IE for a few sites. Above XP Sp2, I haven't installed a single patch - Windows is unfixable anyway! I don't do P2P, and I switch off the machine when I am done (to conserve electricity). AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy are my only weapons against malaware. I used to have AVG virus scanner, but I got rid of it when it started getting in the way too much. I occassionally run the Trend Micro online virus scan.

The new desktop I bought came with Windows XP, and though I loaded Solaris 10 and Suse 9.3 Pro into two other partitions, I boot into Windows as much as I boot into the other two. My only fear about Windows currently is the registry screw-up and the eventual slow down, not viruses or spyware!

  • Re: Win users throwing out their old computers... by br3n, 07/20/2005 05:05:53 EST (4.00 / 5)
    • Re: Win users throwing out their old computers... by deepdistrust, 07/20/2005 07:55:45 EST (3.80 / 5)
Standard config for a USER Linux box. (3.60 / 5) (#1)
by ColonelZen (tzellers lieth within pobox of thy kingdom com) on Sun Jul 17th, 2005 at 00:13:45 EST
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Maybe that should be a different diary, but it's a good question.  How would you define and configure a "walk out with" Linux box for the user.

I'd say RH FC4 config'd for DHCP, 1024x768 with xmms-mp3 of course.  Firefox with pop-up blocks and the dl'able flashblock installed.  Don't know how good is totem?  does FC4 come with a working mplayer for dvd's?  Or would I have to dig up a decent dl for that as well.

I'd probably create a standard user id and password to give out.   I probably wouldn't give the root password out at all on the grounds that if you don't know/can't figure out how to get around that problem, you shouldn't have it anyway.   This is a USER box.  You log in as root and the user warranty is void.

-- TWZ

  • Re: Standard config for a USER Linux box. by mikey, 07/17/2005 01:56:14 EST (3.80 / 5)
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by Potential Recruit on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:47:28 EST
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Bye bye spambot (none / 0) (#9)
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